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Matthew 6:13 & Luke 11:2-4  - Is your bible a "Catholic" bible?

The Lord's Prayer - Is your Bible a Vatican Version?


KJB - Matthew 6:13 "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM, AND THE POWER, AND THE GLORY, FOR EVER. AMEN."  

ESV (NIV, NET, Jehovah Witness NWT, Catholic versions) - "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."

 

 

 


One of the most notable differences between the Catholic bible versions and the Protestant Reformation Bibles is the ending of what is commonly referred to as The Lord's Prayer.  

If the Bible critics and "No Bible is the inerrant words of God" crowd can get rid of these words from the Holy Scriptures by means of their so called "science" of Textual Criticism, then no verse or reading is safe or sure. 

These last words: "FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM, AND THE POWER, AND THE GLORY, FOR EVER. AMEN." are found in the vast Majority of all Greek texts, including E, G, K, L, W, Delta, Pi, Sigma, as well as in four copies of the Old Latin (k, f, g, and q), which point to a Bible text that predates anything we have in the Greek copies. All these words are also found in the ancient Syriac Peshitta, Harclean, Curetonian, and Palestinian, as well as the Coptic Boharic and Sahidic, the Georgian, Armenian, Gothic, Slavonian, and Ethiopian ancient versions.

 

In fact, of over 1000 Greek manuscripts that contain this section of Matthew's gospel, these words are found in all but 10 manuscripts. Dean Burgon mentions emphatically the 100 to one ratio in favor of the King James reading. At the bottom of this article you will find listed the manuscript evidence for this God inspired reading.

Several early church writers bear witness to these inspired words - "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, FOR THINE IS THE POWER, AND THE GLORY, FOR EVER AND EVER. AMEN." Didache (100 AD)

"...but deliver us from evil. FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM, AND THE POWER, AND THE GLORY, FOR EVER AND EVER." Tatian (140 AD) Diatessaron

 "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, FOR THINE IS THE POWER, AND THE GLORY, FOR EVER AND EVER. AMEN."

Chrysostom (347 - 407 AD), Concerning the Statutes, Homily 17 & Homily 19 on Matthew

"...FOR THINE IS THE POWER, AND THE GLORY, FOR EVER AND EVER. AMEN."

Constitutions of the Holy Apostles (200 - 400 AD), 3.2, 7.2

The modern English versions present a confused picture even among themselves as to the authenticity of these words. Such modern versions as the NIV, RSV, ESV, Darby, Common English Bible 2011, the ISV 2014, Dan Wallace's NET version, the Jehovah Witness New World Translation omit these precious words, as do ALL Catholic versions.  

The Catholic Connection  

NO Catholic Bible contains the words "For thine is the kingdom, and the power and the glory, for ever. Amen.", nor do the Latin Vulgate nor the Clementine Vulgate.  This includes the Douay-Rheims 1582, Douay 1950, St. Joseph New American bible 1979, the New Jerusalem bible 1985 or the 2009 Catholic Public Domain Version (The Sacred Scriptures). They all omit this part of the doxology. - They simply read: "And lead us not into temptation. But free us from evil. Amen."


However other Critical Text versions like the NASB, the 2009 Holman Christian Standard, The Voice 2012, The Orthodox Jewish Bible 2011 include the words but place them [in brackets], indicating doubt as to their authenticity.  

Even a big name modern day Bible agnostic like John MacArthur (who himself does not really believe that ANY Bible IS the inerrant words of God) comments on these words: "The doxology is simply this; “For Thine is the kingdom, the power, the glory forever, Amen.” That’s a doxology. You just say it, you just think it, you just offer it to God, you don’t dissect it. And by the way, there’s manuscript evidence that Jesus didn’t even say this, that’s why it’s not included in some of your versions of the Bible. WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE SAID IT OR NOT.  Some manuscripts have it, some don’t."

Agnostic = One who does not know for sure.  


See - "John MacArthur - pastor with no infallible Bible" -
http://brandplucked.webs.com/johnmacarthur.htm


Other modern versions, which are still based primarily on the UBS, Westcott-Hort texts which omit hundreds and hundreds of words from the New Testament, have gone back to including these words without brackets. Among these are the New Life Bible (Lockman foundation 1969), World English Bible 2000, the Hebrew Names Version 2014, the Amplified Bible 1987 and the 1998 Complete Jewish Bible.

The 2002 version called The Message includes the words but paraphrases them to such a degree that they are virtually unrecognizable. It says: "Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil. You're in charge! You can do anything you want! You're ablaze in beauty! Yes. Yes. Yes."

The confusion is seen in the two most recent "evangelical" versions to come out. The 2003-2014 International Standard Version omits all these words, while the 2003-2009 Holman Standard editions contain them.

Even the footnotes found in the modern versions that omit these words give conflicting evidence. The RSV omits the words as does the NIV, ESV and Daniel Wallace's NET version, but the RSV footnotes that the reading is found in "Other authorities, some ancient", whereas the NIV footnote is completely false and presents a distorted view of the evidence.

The NIV footnotes tells us: "Some late manuscripts include the verse".

The ESV footnotes: "Some manuscripts add".  SOME?! Is the ratio of 100 to 1 fairly considered to be "SOME"?

As for "late manuscripts", they apparently do not want you to know the reading is found in copies of SEVERAL ancient Bible versions that predate the very few manuscripts that omit these words. This is not scholarship but sleight of hand.


By the way, here is Undeniable Proof that the ESV, NIV, NASB, NET etc. versions are in fact the new "Catholic" bibles and not Reformation bibles.

See http://brandplucked.webs.com/realcatholicbibles.htm

The ancient Syriac Peshitta reads: "And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever: Amen."

These words are also found in the following English Bible translations: Tyndale 1525, Coverdale 1535, The Great Bible 1540, Matthew's Bible (John Rogers) 1549, the Bishop's Bible 1568, the Geneva Bible 1587, The Beza N.T. 1599, John Wesley's translation of 1755, the Worsley Version 1770, Haweis N.T. 1795, Webster's 1833, Julia Smith Translation 1855, Young's 1898, the NKJV 1982, the KJV 21st Century 1994, Aramaic Bible in Plain English, the New Berkelely Version 1969, the 1987 Amplified Version all read: "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.", the NKJV 1982, The Word of Yah 1993, the Analytical Literal Translation 1999, The Robinson-Pierpoint Byzantine Greek New Testament, Interlinear Greek N.T. 1997 (Larry Pierce), the Third Millennium Bible 1998, Lawrie Translation 1998, The Koster Scriptures 1998, The Last Days N.T. 1999, God's First Truth 1999, World English Bible 2000, The Tomson N.T. 2002, The Apostolic Bible Polyglot Greek 2003, A Conservative Version Interlinear 2005, Green's Literal 2005, The Complete Apostle's Bible 2005, English Majority Text Version 2009, the Jubilee Bible 2010, The Conservative Bible 2010, The Hebraic Transliteration Scripture 2010, Holy Scriptures VW Edition 2010, The Far Above All Translation 2011, Bond Slave Version 2012, Biblos Interlinear Bible 2013,  Interlinear Hebrew-Greek Scriptures 2012 (Mebust), the Natural Israelite Bible 2012, Hebraic Roots Bible 2012, the Hebrew Names Version 2014, The Modern Literal N.T. 2014 and  The Modern English Version 2014.

 All these words are also found in the Modern Greek Bible - Διοτι σου ειναι η βασιλεια και η δυναμις και η δοξα εις τους αιωνας· αμην.

and in the Modern Hebrew Bible - ואל תביאנו לידי נסיון כי אם חלצנו מן הרע כי לך הממלכה והגבורה והתפארת לעולמי עולמים אמן׃ = "FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM, AND THE POWER, AND THE GLORY, FOR EVER. AMEN."

 

Foreign Language Bibles = KJB

 

The list of foreign language Bibles that include the words "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen" is quite impressive.

Among them are: John Calvin's Latin translation, the Africaans Bible 1953, the Albanian, Armenian, Basque, Bulgarian, Czech BKR, Chinese Traditional Union Version, Croatian, Danish, Dutch Staten Vertaling, Finnish bible of 1776 and 1938, French Martin 1744, French Oservald 1996 and French Louis Second 2007 - "car c'est à toi qu'appartiennent, dans tous les siècles, le règne, la puissance et la gloire. Amen!", the Gaelic, the Greek Orthodox Bible, Hungarian Karoli, Lithuanian, Luther's German 1545, German Schlachter Bible of 2000 and the Greek Byzantine text used throughout the Greek Orthodox churches all over the world.

 

The words are also found in the Gypsy Rhomanese, Hatian Creole, the Modern Hebrew Bible that includes the New Testament, Hungarian, Icelandic, the Italian Diodati 1649, the New Diodati 1991, Korean, Latvian, Maori bible, Norwegian Det Norsk 1930,  Polish Bible Gdanska, Portuguese Almeida, Romanian Cornilescu, the Russian Synodal  and Zhuromsky translations, the Shuar translation, the Spanish Sagradas Escrituras 1569, Cipriano de Valera 1602, the Spanish Reina Valera 1909-2011- "Porque tuyo es el reino, el poder, y la gloria, por todos los siglos. Amén", , La Nueva Biblia de los Hispanos 2005 (Lockman),  Swahili N.T., Tagalog Ang Dating bible, Turkish, Ukranian, Uma N.T.,  Vietnamese N.T. 1934, the Chinese Union Traditional Bible -   耀 , the Smith & vanDyke Arabic Bible - ولا تدخلنا في تجربة. لكن نجنا من الشرير. لان لك الملك والقوة والمجد الى الابد. آمين."

The New Testament from Aramaic, copyright 1940 reads like the King James Bible saying: "Because thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory for ever and ever. Amen."
 
But in the USA we have such versions that omit these words as the NIV, RSV, NRSV, ESV, ISV, NET and the New Living Translation. Why? Because they are "Catholic" bibles put together by the United Bible Society which is a joint effort between Catholic and Evangelical scholars, none of whom believes that ANY Bible in ANY language IS or ever was the complete, inspired and 100% historically true words of God.  Again, see the proof of this charge in the link above.

Here is page 45 of the Nestle-Aland Critical text 27th edition. They come right out and tell you that this ever changing text is under the direct supervision of the Vatican.



Bible "scholars" are all over the board.  What one affirms another just as confidently denies.  Some argue for the legitimacy of these words and others, in spite of the MASSIVE evidence in favor of these inspired words, deny they are part of Scripture.

John Calvin includes all these words in his Latin translation and then comments: "For thine is the kingdom"- It is surprising that this clause, which agrees so well with the rest of the prayer, has been left out by the Latins for it was not added merely for the purpose of kindling our hearts to seek the glory of God, and of reminding us what ought to be the object of our prayers; but likewise to teach us, that our prayers, which are here dictated to us, are founded on God alone, that we may not rely on our own merits."

Adam Clarke also says regarding the Doxology - "It should not, in my opinion, be left out of the text"

Barnes' Notes on the New Testament includes all these words with no hint that they are spurious and he expounds upon them in great detail.

David Guzik's Commentary on the Bible concludes - "we should regard it as Jesus truly said it."

Matthew Henry says - "Observe, how full this doxology is, The kingdom, and the power, and the glory, it is all thine." and then proceeds to expound upon them in great detail.

John Wesley believed these words form part of inspired Scripture and he both expounded upon them in his commentary and included them in his own translation made in 1755 - "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen." (Wesley translation 1755)
 
Octavius Winslow comments on these words in Matthew 6:13 - “We see no just reason, however, to question its integrity. Found as it is in the Syriac copy, the most ancient version of the New Testament--standing as it does in close harmony with the very first petition of the prayer--and maintaining a strict analogy with the whole tenor of God's Word, we feel no difficulty in accepting it as genuine.”

A.W. Pink expounds upon the passage and includes the Doxology as inspired Scripture.  He states: “"For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen." Thus the family prayer closes with a doxology or an ascription of that glory which is due unto God, thereby teaching us that prayer and praise should always go together. It is to be carefully noted that this doxology of the Divine perfections is made use of as a plea to enforce the preceding petitions: "deliver us from evil for Thine is the kingdom," etc....The concluding "Amen" expresses both a fervent desire, "so be it," and an avowal to faith, "it shall be so."

Some Bible critics I have run into try to tell us that the Doxology found in Matthew 6:13 should be omitted because it is not found in a similar prayer recorded in Luke 11:1-4. These critics fail to notice the obvious.

The context of Luke chapter 11 is very different from the context of Matthew chapter 6. In Matthew the Lord is giving the sermon on the mount to a great multitude. In Luke it is the disciples who come to our Lord at a different time and request that He teach them how to pray.

There are also some very serious textual changes found in the prayer pattern found in Luke 11:2-4.

In the King James Holy Bible we read: "And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples. And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, OUR Father, WHICH ART IN HEAVEN, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, AS IN HEAVEN, SO IN EARTH. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL."

All the capital lettered words have been omitted in such versions as the NIV, RSV, NASB, ESV, ISV (International Standard Version) and the Jehovah Witness New World Translation.

Every one of these omitted words are found in the vast Majority of all Greek manuscripts and in the previous Reformation Bibles like Tyndale, Coverdale, Great Bible, Matthew's Bible, the Bishops' Bible and the Geneva Bible. They are also found in John Calvin's Latin translation, the NKJV 1982, the Third Millennium Bible 1998, Luther's German Bible 1545 and the German Schlachter Bible of 2000, the Italian Diodati 1649, the Nuova Riveduta of 2006 and the Nuova Diodati of 1991 - "Ed egli disse loro: «Quando pregate, dite: "Padre nostro che sei nei cieli, sia santificato il tuo nome, venga il tuo regno, sia fatta la tua volontà sulla terra, come nel cielo. 3 Dacci di giorno in giorno il nostro pane necessario. 4 E perdona i nostri peccati, perché anche noi perdoniamo ad ogni nostro debitore; e non esporci alla tentazione, ma liberaci dal maligno."

All the words are also found in the Spanish Sagradas Escrituras of 1569 and the Reina Valera of 1602 to 1995 - "Padre nuestro que estás en los cielos, santificado sea tu nombre. Venga tu Reino. Hágase tu voluntad, como en el cielo, así también en la tierra.  El pan nuestro de cada día, dánoslo hoy.  Perdónanos nuestros pecados, porque también nosotros perdonamos a todos los que nos deben. Y no nos metas en tentación, mas líbranos del mal.” and the Reina Valera Gómez of 2010.

The Portuguese A Biblia Sagrada - "E ele lhes disse: Quando orardes, dizei: Pai nosso, que ests nos cus, santificado seja o teu nome; venha o teu reino; seja feita a tua vontade, assim na terra, como no cu. D-nos cada dia o nosso po cotidiano; E perdoa-nos os nossos pecados, pois tambm ns perdoamos a qualquer que nos deve, e no nos conduzas em tentao, mas livra-nos do mal."

They are also in the French Martin of 1744, the French Ostervald of 1996 and the French Louis Segond of 2007 - "Et il leur dit: Quand vous priez, dites: Notre Père qui es aux cieux; ton nom soit sanctifié; ton règne vienne; ta volonté soit faite sur la terre comme au ciel; Donne-nous chaque jour notre pain quotidien; Pardonne-nous nos péchés; car nous pardonnons aussi à tous ceux qui nous ont offensés; et ne nous induis point en tentation; mais délivre-nous du malin."

This was the text of the Reformation Bibles.  

The Catholic Connection

BUT Guess which bible versions omit all these words and read just like the ESV, NIV, NASB, ISV and the Jehovah Witness New World Translation.  You got it.  The Catholic bibles omit the exact same words, including the Catholic Rheims of 1582, the Douay 1950, the St. Joseph NAB of 1970 and the New Jerusalem bible of 1985!  Just another coincidence, huh?  

 

Then check your ESV, NIV, NASB, ISV, NET etc. to see how they read when compared to the Catholic versions.  It's right there in front of you in black and white print.

So all this "scholar-speak" about "We now have older and better manuscripts" (Vaticanus) and their constant droning on about "the latest in manuscript discoveries" and "The KJV translators didn't have access to these older readings" etc. is just a bunch of Baloney! 

Get yourself the real Bible - the Authorized King James Holy Bible that you can hold in your hands (unlike those phantom "originals only") read and believe that every word is the complete, inspired and inerrant words of the living God.

 The NIV, NASB, ISV, ESV, NET and the modern Catholic versions omit all these capitalized words primarily on the basis of 4 manuscripts, yet among these four so called "oldest and best" out of the 45 Greek words found within just three verses, no two of them agree with each other in 32 out of the 45 words found here! And the new version Critical Text scholars call this a "science"!

The Modern Greek New Testament used throughout the Greek Orthodox churches all over the world reads exactly like the King James Bible and the Reformation Bibles in both Matthew 6:13 and in Luke 11:2-4.  

Here is the Modern Greek reading for Luke 11:2-4 -Verse 2.  - Ειπε δε προς αυτους· Οταν προσευχησθε, λεγετε· Πατερ ημων ο εν τοις ουρανοις, αγιασθητω το ονομα σου, ελθετω η βασιλεια σου, γενηθητω το θελημα σου ως εν ουρανω, και επι της γης·  Verse 3. - τον αρτον ημων τον επιουσιον διδε εις ημας καθ' ημεραν· Verse 4. και συγχωρησον εις ημας τας αμαρτιας ημων, διοτι και ημεις συγχωρουμεν εις παντα αμαρτανοντα εις ημας· και μη φερης ημας εις πειρασμον, αλλ' ελευθερωσον ημας απο του πονηρου.
 
 The Lord Jesus Christ either said all these words and they are inspired Scripture and belong in the Bible, or they are not and should be omitted. Remember, He emphatically stated "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away."  So how about it?  Are you a Bible believer or, like so many Christians today, a Bible agnostic who says: "We don’t know whether He said it or not."?

Here is a site where you can see the ancient Gothic Version of the four gospels done in the year 360 A.D. by Ufilas. You can clearly see that Matthew 6:13 includes the words "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen." -

http://books.google.com/books?id=twINAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false


 For a much fuller explanation of why modern "Evangelical" versions like the ESV, NIV, NASB, NET etc. are in fact the new  "Catholic" bible versions, see Undeniable Proof the ESV, NIV, NASBs are Catholic bibles here -

http://brandplucked.webs.com/realcatholicbibles.htm


The King James Bible is right and it's critics are wrong, as always.


"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."  Matthew 11:15


 Will Kinney


For a very well done article with lots of research about the Doxology in Matthew 6 please see the article here at KJV  Today


http://www.kjvtoday.com/home/is-the-doxology-to-the-lords-prayer-in-matthew-613-a-late-addition#TOC-The-teaching-on-laying-up-treasures-in-heaven


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