Another King James Bible Believer

Does James White Lie when he talks about the Bible Version Issue?

Does James White Lie when he talks about The Bible Version Issue?


 https://youtu.be/Eh3k_A9ugOo


Neither one of these men, James White or Todd Friel, really believes that ANY Bible in any language is now or ever was the complete and inerrant words of God. 


There is lots of misleading and sometimes totally false information in this video James White and Todd Friel put together. 


You might be interested in reading my article James White - the Protestant Pope of the modern Vatican Versions.

 

http://brandplucked.webs.com/jameswhiteppopevv.htm


James White is very misleading when he talks about the last 6 verses of Revelation. There are no "weird readings" in these verses. Not even the modern Critical Text versions of today agree among themselves in the last verse of this chapter. Read the article below to see this example.


The main disputed reading in all six verses is one word as found in Revelation 22:19 where we find the difference between “the book of life” versus “the tree of life”. 

 

See my article here -


http://brandplucked.webs.com/rev2219bookoflife.htm


And you might be interested in “Answering the charge that  “Erasmus was a Catholic humanist.”


http://brandplucked.webs.com/erasmus.htm


The modern Critical Text versions are not based on 5700 mss at all. The majority of all these 5700 manuscripts only confirm the readings found in the King James Bible, as opposed to the modern Critical Text versions.  Versions like the ESV, NIV, NASB, NET, the modern Catholic versions and the Jehovah Witness New World Translation all share THE SAME Greek textual basis which is taken primarily from two manuscripts (Sinaiticus and Vaticanus) that constantly contradict, not only the Majority of all manuscripts, but each other as well, AND the ever changing Critical Greek text is under the direct supervision of the Vatican.

 

They come right out and tell you this in the Nestle-Aland 27th edition, which is the same textual basis for the ESV, NIV, NASB and the modern Catholic versions as well as the Jehovah Witness NWT.


Both James White and Todd Friel make reference to "the older and best manuscripts", yet most people are unaware of what they are referring to and how they actually read.  If you wish to learn more about how messed up and contradictory they REALLY are, here are many examples for you to consider.  


The true character of the so called "Oldest and Best Manuscripts"


http://brandplucked.webs.com/oldestandbestmss.htm


James misrepresents the truth about 1 John 5:7 - the strongest verse in the Bible about the Trinity. He said this reading didn't appear in the Greek manuscripts till the 14th century. James is being very selective and misleading about the truth of this verse.


See http://brandplucked.webs.com/1john57.htm


By the way, James White also says that Luke 23:34 is NOT inspired Scripture and doesn't belong in the Bible  - "Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them for they know not what they do."


Do you agree with him on this?


http://brandplucked.webs.com/jwonluke2334.htm


James White also misrepresents the truth about the Geneva bible and the Pilgrims view of the King James Bible. He said the Pilgrims favored the Geneva Bible over the KJB because many of them objected to the words "baptize" and "church". Yet the Geneva bible has both "baptize" and "church" in it, just as often and in the same places as the KJB does!


We know for a fact that the Pilgrims on the Mayflower also brought with them the King James Bible and not just the Geneva bible.

 

Many of the Puritans themselves were on the King James Bible translation committee.


See my article on the Geneva Bible -


http://brandplucked.webs.com/deficientgeneva.htm


As for James White’s “Gotcha Question” about “Which King James Version is inerrant?”, this too is easy to answer.


See "Answering James White - Which KJV?"


http://brandplucked.webs.com/answerwhitewhichkjb.htm


James White is either misrepresenting or flat out lying about many things in this short video. In addition to this, he often SAYS he believes "the Bible IS the infallible words of God", yet he will NEVER show you a copy of it or tell you what it is or where you can get one for yourself.  And neither will Todd Friel.



Word to the wise about James White from the book of Proverbs -

 

“Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.”  Proverbs 14:7


ALL of grace, believing God’s Book in the English language - the King James Holy Bible.


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 Does God love everybody?


A brother (Martin C.) writes - “Would a fair summary of God's love in light of these teachings be that he loves all people, saint and sinner alike, but the elect are his focus given his plan of salvation by the election of grace?”




Hi Martin Carter. I do not believe God loves the non-elect. Christ did not die for the non-elect. In regards to God not loving the non-elect, consider the following.


Romans 9 talks about the elect and the non-elect, the vessels of mercy and the vessels of wrath. God is the Potter and we are the clay.  He loved Jacob but hated Esau.

 

There are several clear verses in the Bible that tell us that God hates and abhors certain people.  Here are a few of them -

 

"thou hatest all workers of iniquity."  Psalms 5:5

 

"The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth." Psalms 11:5

 

"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: ...a false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."  Proverbs 6:16-19

 

"They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the LORD: but such as are upright in their way are his delight."  Proverbs 11:20

 

"Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD" Proverbs 16:5 


"He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD."  Proverbs 17:15 


"The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein." Proverbs 22:14

 

"And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste"  Malachi 1:3

 

"Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." Romans 9:13


I have had several “free willers” somehow think that they have some kind of an explanation for this verse about God loving Jacob and hating Esau, and they take me to Genesis 25:23 where the Lord tells Rebekah, the mother of Jacob and Esau, that “Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.”


I don’t see how this solves anything. Now you have God hating not only the individual Esau, but an entire nation of people as well. They have only made their case worse!


And David says under the inspiration of God - "Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee?...I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies."  Psalms 139:21-22

If God chose some, then he necessarily did not chose the others.  Is God unjust? No. Justice, pure and simple, would have been to condemn all of us to hell.

Why? Because of what all of us are like in our fallen and sinful nature. The Bible does not paint a very flattering picture of fallen mankind.

God’s word tells us that “there is none righteous, no not one. There is none that understandeth. There is none that seeketh after God, and there is none that doeth good, no, not one.”  (Romans 3)

God’s Book describes us all as being “without strength”. Not just weak, but WITHOUT strength. 

We are not just “sick” but are DEAD in trespasses and sins.  (Ephesians 2:1)

We are UNGODLY, SINNERS and even ENEMIES of God. (Romans 5:6-8)

The natural man “loves darkness rather than light” - (John 3:19) 

And “we have turned every one to his own way” - (Isaiah 53:6)

Man is not some innocent babe in the woods who does not know the difference between right and wrong. He is a rebel who is at enmity with God and hates the light.  And if we all got what we deserve at this moment, we would instantly be tossed into the torments and fires of hell.

It doesn’t really matter whether you agree or not with God’s assessment of what fallen human nature is like or what we deserve. 

WE are not the Judge and when we finally appear before the thrice Holy Creator who hates sin, our mouths will be stopped in recognition of the truth and “all the world will become guilty before God” - (Romans 3:19)

 

God loves His own whom He has chosen to love. 


In John 13:1 we read "Jesus...having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end."


"Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus." John 11:5


"Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved."  John 13:23


Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it.  Ephesians  5:25


"the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20


And "Unto him that loved us and washed us from our sins in his own blood"  Rev. 1:5


If Jesus loved everybody, then these statements would be superfluous and redundant.


And you will notice that with all the preaching in the book of Acts by both Peter and Paul, not one time does the word "love" appear in the entire book.


It is only in the epistles, which are written to believers, are we told that we are beloved of God.


And when we look at the Old Testament we see statements like this - 


"And because HE LOVED THY FATHERS, THEREFORE HE CHOSE THEIR SEED after them, and brought thee out in his sight with his mighty power out of Egypt"  Deuteronomy 4:37


"...the LORD thy God HATH CHOSEN THEE TO BE A SPECIAL PEOPLE UNTO HIMSELF, ABOVE ALL PEOPLE that are upon the fact of the earth. 


The LORD did not SET HIS LOVE UPON YOU, NOR CHOOSE YOU, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people.


But BECAUSE THE LORD LOVED YOU, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, AND REDEEMED YOU out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt."  Deuteronomy 7:6-8



When you see the truth of these things, it really makes the love of God for you - if you are among his elect people - something really special.  He knows all about our weaknesses and our sins, not only those of the past, but of the future. He saw them all before we even did them, yet he chose to love us and make us one of his own anyway.


Some have wisely remarked that it not to be wondered at that God would hate Esau. What is truly amazing is that God WOULD love the likes of Jacob.


Truly we may say like king Hezekiah of old - “but thou hast in love to my soul delivered it from the pit of corruption; for thou hast cast all my sins behind thy back.”  Isaiah 38:17


ALL of grace, believing the Book - the King James Holy Bible,


Will Kinney


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Does God Love Everyone? by Dr. Robert Morey

 

 9 1/2 minute video. Well presented, but the man doesn’t use the right Bible.  Nonetheless his arguments are sound.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3TfWyJNwDw&app=desktop

 

Great "cartoon" video about John MacArthur's idea that "God loves everybody"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz0gne3-kxE