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Does "all men" mean "all men without exception"?

 


Bible Illiterate Jeff T., who is a rabid “free willer” and is perfectly willing to twist the Scriptures to try to make them say what he wants them to say so he can prop up his “will of the flesh” brand of Christianity, tells us: “All Men Always means All Men.”


 

But is he right?  Of course not. “all men” frequently means all kinds of men without distinction of nationality, but not all men without exception.


Here are a few examples - 


Now comparing scripture with scripture, what does "all men" mean? I believe it means all men without distinction of national heritage, social standing, wealth or intellect. It does not mean all men without exception.


In the Old Testament God chose only the nation of Israel to be his people. "For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth." Deut. 14:2.


But now the Messiah has come and he is to be the Saviour of his people which are taken out out every nation, tribe, kindred and tongue. "God did visit the Gentiles to take out of them a people for his name." Acts 15:14.


Even in the Old Testament times a Gentile could come to Israel and learn of the true God. Notice carefully the expression used in Solomon's prayer at the dedication of the temple in I Kings 8:41-43: "Moreover concerning A STRANGER, that is not of thy people Israel, but cometh out of a far country for thy name's sake; (For they shall hear of thy great name, and of thy strong hand, and of thy stretched out arm;) when HE shall come and pray toward this house; Hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and do according to all that THE STRANGER calleth to thee for; that ALL PEOPLE of the earth may know thy name, to fear thee, as do thy people of Israel."


Notice that this prayer refers to one Gentile who comes to pray to the true God. "All people of the earth" therefore does not mean every individual but all men without distinction of nationality, be they a Jew or a Gentile.


Again in Isaiah 56: 6, 7 it says: "Also the sons of the stranger (Gentiles) that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD...Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer...for mine house shall be called an house of prayer FOR ALL PEOPLE." 


Obviously this does not mean every individual without exception will join himself to the LORD, but all without distinction of nationality.


When the apostle Paul relates his conversion experience we can see how this same thought is expressed. In Acts 9:15 the Lord tells Ananias concerning Paul: "But the Lord said, Go thy way; for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel."

 

Yet in Acts 22:14, 15 Paul himself tells us that Ananias came to him: "And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth. For thou shalt be his witness unto ALL MEN of what thou hast seen and heard."


Do you see it? All men = the Gentiles, kings and the children of Israel. All men without distinction of nationality or social standing. Obviously Paul did not speak to Noah's sons, the Cherokee  Indians, Genghis Khan or Bill Gates.


Luke 2:29-32 - At the birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, the devout Simeon came by the Spirit into the temple, took up the babe in his arms and said: "Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, which thou hast prepared before the face of ALL PEOPLE; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel."


Obviously not every individual Gentile or Jew would be lightened by this salvation, but the Messiah will save all people without distinction of nationality, not all people without exception.


Now, let’s look at some other examples where the phrase “ALL MEN” cannot possibly mean every individual without exception. 


Matthew 10:22

And ye shall be hated of ALL MEN for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.


Will they also hate themselves or be hated by other Christians?


Matthew 19:11

But he said unto them, ALL MEN cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.


You mean NOBODY can receive this saying?


Matthew 26:33

Peter answered and said unto him, Though ALL MEN shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.


Wasn’t Peter also one of these ALL MEN?


Mark 1:37

And when they had found him, they said unto him, ALL MEN seek for thee.


Did the Pharisees also seek Jesus? or How about all the millions who died in the centuries before. Did they also seek Jesus?


Luke 3:15

And as the people were in expectation, and ALL MEN mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ, or not;


Most people in the world have never even heard of John the Baptist, and multiplied millions had already died and never heard of him either.  Were they also musing in their hearts whether he were the Christ.


Luke 6:26

Woe unto you, when ALL MEN shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.


Do they also speak well of themselves. And again, nobody among the millions who were already dead and multitudes all over the earth at that time never even heard of the disciples of Jesus. Were they also speaking well of these disciples they never even heard about?


John 3:26

And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and ALL MEN come to him.


Did everybody without exception, including the masses of dead people and even the Pharisees and Roman governor go to John to be baptized too?


John 11:48

If we let him thus alone, ALL MEN will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.


Will the Pharisees and the Romans also believe?


Acts 2:45

And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to ALL MEN, as every man had need.


Hey, I never got any of this stuff. How about you?  Aren’t we also among these “ALL MEN”?


Acts 4:21

So when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding nothing how they might punish them, because of the people: for ALL MEN glorified God for that which was done.


Most people in the entire world never saw this miracle of healing and certainly didn’t glorify God for it. Aren’t they among the ALL MEN too?


Acts 19:19

Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before ALL MEN: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.


I never saw this book burning. Did you?  I’ll bet multiplied millions never even heard of it happening at all.


Acts 21:28

Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth ALL MEN every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.


The vast majority of people who were alive even at this time never heard Paul preach or teach.  So who are these “ALL MEN” they refer to?


Acts 22:15

For thou shalt be his witness unto ALL MEN of what thou hast seen and heard.


Did Paul witness to the millions who had previously died? Or how about Ghengis Khan or Bill Gates or Cain or Jehoshaphat or Solomon, to name but a few?


Romans 16:19

For your obedience is come abroad unto ALL MEN. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.


Most people living even at this time in history never even heard of the small group of Christians at Rome to whom Paul was writing.  Are they also included in the ALL MEN?


2 Corinthians 3:2

Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of ALL MEN:


Again, most people in the world never even heard of the Christians at Corinth.


2 Corinthians 9:13

Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto ALL MEN


Hey, I never got any of this money either. Did you?


2 Thessalonians 3:2

And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for ALL MEN have not faith.


You mean NOBODY has faith? 


2 Timothy 4:16

At my first answer no man stood with me, but ALL MEN forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.


Hey, I never did that. I wasn’t even alive during this time. Billions of people never forsook Paul and let him rot in jail.


3 John 1:12

Demetrius hath good report of ALL MEN, and of the truth itself: yea, and we also bear record; and ye know that our record is true.


I had never even HEARD of this Demetrius guy and certainly never said anything good about him. Did you?


Revelation 19:18

That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of ALL MEN, both free and bond, both small and great.


Is YOUR Flesh going to be eaten by the fowls of heaven too?


NO, Folks, “all men” does NOT always mean “all men without exception”.  Only a goofy bible illiterate with an personal agenda to try to prove something that simply is not true would affirm that it does.


For much more on this and how it ties directly into John 12:32 - "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL MEN unto me."

 

See http://brandplucked.webs.com/john1232iwilldrawall.htm

 

And

I Timothy 2:3-5 KJB -  "For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who WILL HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

http://brandplucked.webs.com/1tim235allsaved.htm

 

All of grace, believing the Book,

Will Kinney

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Does "all men" mean "all men without exception?"

 


Bible Illiterate Jeff T., who is a rabid “free willer” and is perfectly willing to twist the Scriptures to try to make them say what he wants them to say so he can prop up his “will of the flesh” brand of Christianity, tell us: “All Men Always means All Men.”


But is he right?  Of course not. “all men” frequently means all kinds of men without distinction of nationality, but not all men without exception.


Here are a few examples - 


Now comparing scripture with scripture, what does "all men" mean? I believe it means all men without distinction of national heritage, social standing, wealth or intellect. It does not mean all men without exception.


In the Old Testament God chose only the nation of Israel to be his people. "For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth." Deut. 14:2.


But now the Messiah has come and he is to be the Saviour of his people which are taken out out every nation, tribe, kindred and tongue. "God did visit the Gentiles to take out of them a people for his name." Acts 15:14.


Even in the Old Testament times a Gentile could come to Israel and learn of the true God. Notice carefully the expression used in Solomon's prayer at the dedication of the temple in I Kings 8:41-43: "Moreover concerning A STRANGER, that is not of thy people Israel, but cometh out of a far country for thy name's sake; (For they shall hear of thy great name, and of thy strong hand, and of thy stretched out arm;) when HE shall come and pray toward this house; Hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and do according to all that THE STRANGER calleth to thee for; that ALL PEOPLE of the earth may know thy name, to fear thee, as do thy people of Israel."


Notice that this prayer refers to one Gentile who comes to pray to the true God. "All people of the earth" therefore does not mean every individual but all men without distinction of nationality, be they a Jew or a Gentile.


Again in Isaiah 56: 6, 7 it says: "Also the sons of the stranger (Gentiles) that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD...Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer...for mine house shall be called an house of prayer FOR ALL PEOPLE." 


Obviously this does not mean every individual without exception will join himself to the LORD, but all without distinction of nationality.


When the apostle Paul relates his conversion experience we can see how this same thought is expressed. In Acts 9:15 the Lord tells Ananias concerning Paul: "But the Lord said, Go thy way; for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel."

 

Yet in Acts 22:14, 15 Paul himself tells us that Ananias came to him: "And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth. For thou shalt be his witness unto ALL MEN of what thou hast seen and heard."



Do you see it? All men = the Gentiles, kings and the children of Israel. All men without distinction of nationality or social standing. Obviously Paul did not speak to Noah's sons, the Cherokee  Indians, Genghis Khan or Bill Gates.



Luke 2:29-32 - At the birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, the devout Simeon came by the Spirit into the temple, took up the babe in his arms and said: "Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, which thou hast prepared before the face of ALL PEOPLE; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel."



Obviously not every individual Gentile or Jew would be lightened by this salvation, but the Messiah will save all people without distinction of nationality, not all people without exception.


Now, let’s look at some other examples where the phrase “ALL MEN” cannot possibly mean every individual without exception. 


Matthew 10:22

And ye shall be hated of ALL MEN for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.


Will they also hate themselves or be hated by other Christians?


Matthew 19:11

But he said unto them, ALL MEN cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.


You mean NOBODY can receive this saying?


Matthew 26:33

Peter answered and said unto him, Though ALL MEN shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.


Wasn’t Peter also one of these ALL MEN?


Mark 1:37

And when they had found him, they said unto him, ALL MEN seek for thee.


Did the Pharisees also seek Jesus? or How about all the millions who died in the centuries before. Did they also seek Jesus?


Luke 3:15

And as the people were in expectation, and ALL MEN mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ, or not;


Most people in the world have never even heard of John the Baptist, and multiplied millions had already died and never heard of him either.  Were they also musing in their hearts whether he were the Christ.


Luke 6:26

Woe unto you, when ALL MEN shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.


Do they also speak well of themselves. And again, nobody among the millions who were already dead and multitudes all over the earth at that time never even heard of the disciples of Jesus. Were they also speaking well of these disciples they never even heard about?


John 3:26

And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and ALL MEN come to him.


Did everybody without exception, including the masses of dead people and even the Pharisees and Roman governor go to John to be baptized too?


John 11:48

If we let him thus alone, ALL MEN will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.


Will the Pharisees and the Romans also believe?


Acts 2:45

And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to ALL MEN, as every man had need.


Hey, I never got any of this stuff. How about you?  Aren’t we also among these “ALL MEN”?


Acts 4:21

So when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding nothing how they might punish them, because of the people: for ALL MEN glorified God for that which was done.


Most people in the entire world never saw this miracle of healing and certainly didn’t glorify God for it. Aren’t they among the ALL MEN too?


Acts 19:19

Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before ALL MEN: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.


I never saw this book burning. Did you?  I’ll bet multiplied millions never even heard of it happening at all.


Acts 21:28

Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth ALL MEN every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.


The vast majority of people who were alive even at this time never heard Paul preach or teach.  So who are these “ALL MEN” they refer to?


Acts 22:15

For thou shalt be his witness unto ALL MEN of what thou hast seen and heard.


Did Paul witness to the millions who had previously died? Or how about Ghengis Khan or Bill Gates or Cain or Jehoshaphat or Solomon, to name but a few?


Romans 16:19

For your obedience is come abroad unto ALL MEN. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.


Most people living even at this time in history never even heard of the small group of Christians at Rome to whom Paul was writing.  Are they also included in the ALL MEN?


2 Corinthians 3:2

Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of ALL MEN:


Again, most people in the world never even heard of the Christians at Corinth.


2 Corinthians 9:13

Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto ALL MEN


Hey, I never got any of this money either. Did you?


2 Thessalonians 3:2

And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for ALL MEN have not faith.


You mean NOBODY has faith? 


2 Timothy 4:16

At my first answer no man stood with me, but ALL MEN forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.


Hey, I never did that. I wasn’t even alive during this time. Billions of people never forsook Paul and let him rot in jail.


3 John 1:12

Demetrius hath good report of ALL MEN, and of the truth itself: yea, and we also bear record; and ye know that our record is true.


I had never even HEARD of this Demetrius guy and certainly never said anything good about him. Did you?


Revelation 19:18

That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of ALL MEN, both free and bond, both small and great.


Is YOUR Flesh going to be eaten by the fowls of heaven too?


NO, Folks, “all men” does NOT always mean “all men without exception”.  Only a goofy bible illiterate with an personal agenda to try to prove something that simply is not true would affirm that it does.

 

 


All of grace, believing the Book, 

Will Kinney 

Return to articles - http://brandplucked.webs.com/kjbarticles.htm